English people, English Culture, English National Identity


If we are going to have a society of ENGLISH Oaks and Roses, how will we determine who is English and qualified to join?

What is it that determines that a person is English? Is there a race that is distinctly English, is it being born of English parents, or within the borders of England? Is it an exclusive identity or can anyone join? Can someone become English of their own volition?

England is unique in the United Kingdom as being the only country in it that does not have a distinct and identifiable race. Genetics can identify the individual Celtic races of Scottish, Welsh and Irish origin, but there is no distinct genome that is indigenous to England. That is because all English people are descended from immigrants, historically either from their Celtic neighbours or nearby European countries, or more recently from any other part of the world. Even St George, patron saint of England, was of Grecian birth, and Alfred the Great, who probably did more than anyone else to determine a character that was distinctly English, was an Anglo-Saxon of Germanic decent. The very earliest resident of England (Cheddar-Gorge man, 10,000 ad) has been identified as being middle eastern in origin and negros of African descent have been established in England from as long ago as the 12th century. Chinese and Indian immigrants have been established in England for the last 200 years. The current royal family are of German and Greek bloodlines. What all this means is that when it comes to identifying who is or can be English, genetics and race are factors that do not come into it.

St George: Patron Saint of England

Alfred the Great

So, by looking at the faces of the people below, whilst you may be able to determine their ethnic origin from their appearance, there is nothing in that appearance that either identifies them as, or precludes them from, being English.


If then, you met any of these people on the street, either in England or anywhere else, how would you be able to identify if they were English or otherwise? Language would be the first clue.

Anyone who embraces a language embraces to some degree the culture of the country to which that language belongs. Even local idioms and international variants of the same language reflect the thinking and customs of the people using them. Languages and accents are the first give away to the national identity of anybody in spite of any physical characteristics or appearance that they might have. Thus if you heard a person speaking English you might reasonably assume that that person was English, if you heard a person speaking French you might assume that that person was French, it doesn't follow that that was the case of course, but clearly language is a factor in determining national identity. If there was a universal language such as Esparanto which everybody communicated in, then national identity would be purely a matter of geography, with some elements of culture and local personality and temperament included.

The national identity element of language is an emotive issue that overrides the practical advantages of there being a single universal language, a fact which the Welsh and Gaelic speakers of the UK and Ireland will no doubt endorse. The way forward on that may be for everyone to keep their own language and learn a universal language as well. Not a difficult, irrational, idiosyncratic language such as English, but a more logical one, such as Spanish (but without the arbitrary genderisations) or the intelligently fabricated aforementioned Esparanto.

If one person was born in England to non-English parents and was brought up speaking only a language other than English, would they have a greater or lesser claim to being English than a person born outside of England to English parents and brought up only to speak English? From a cultural point of view the latter would be more English than the former. However, what we are concerned about is the destiny of England, and destiny affects groups of people living in the same places, according to how those groups of people live. So for our purposes a geographical boundary is the first consideration, and the homogenising of the culture within that geographical boundary our objective, in order to attract the best possible state of affairs that will affect the area within that geographical boundary. In short, whoever is living and breathing in England is affecting England in some way and for the purposes of this Society has to be considered as being English.


There are fundamental causes and effects that influence the destiny of any Nation. They are universal and apply in all cases. England, however, along with its neighbours Scotland, Wales and Ireland, has a special destiny predetermined by God's overiding the automatic workings of Cosmic Law. This is because the major part of the populations of these countries are descendants of the lost tribes of Israel, specifically the tribe descended from Ephraim.

This lineage puts England (and its' neihbours) in the category of being God's chosen people. This status carries with it potential blessings and definite responsibilities. It is in fact a double edged sword that can be either the making of England or the cause of its' downfall and destruction. England's immigrant population not descended from the tribe of Ephraim, being in the geographical boundary of England will be affected by and included in this special destiny, be it the blessing or otherwise that it carries.

The special blessing of these people can be observed by the rise of Britain over the past 200 years. The decline of that empire and glory since is indicative of the way that England (and the rest of Britain) is now heading.

Being God's chosen people carries with it the blessing of elevation and abundance, but also severe penalties for non compliance of the conditions. The prime condition for this blessing is to acknowledge God as being our God, which we do by worship and obedience, thus confirming that we are His people. Today, England turns its' back on God by ignoring Him and behaving in ungodly ways. This has to change in order for England to realise its' most blessed destiny, and to avoid its' most detrimantal one.

The Society of English Oaks and Roses is being established as an institution whereby its members can study and apply the principles of health, success and prosperity and thereby add to the health. success and prosperity of the country of England. Our focus is on the character and culture of English people and on improving the quality of life in England. Anyone residing in England may apply to join.

Website and Society in the process of formation, enquiries to: admin@english-oaksandroses.co.uk